Yeah, but that rule is only applicable in america. Now, armed with that knowledge, you tell us, do teal dress pants work with your coloring and your existing wardrobe? This is all mambo jumbo to me.
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Or it should be brown? Chris, I would avoid a white leather belt. But a white braided one or something of that ilk would likely be fine. Brown would be the safer and more conservative choice. Why are square toed shoes to be avoided?
That is my preferred shoe for business casual at work. The preference is purely looks, not fit. Many others in my office have the same preference. Is this just your own preference, or is there some etiquette reason for 18? Briago, There are a few reasons. But mostly they are just a signifier of bad taste. From a more technical perspective, they cut off the foot and create an unflattering line for the shoe; they create a horizontal line, whereas you want more vertical lines lines that run the length of the foot.
Furthermore, I have never seen a nice upper pattern dress a square toed last. I have a pair of Express Photographer suit pants, in black, but cannot find a vest in black to match the fabric on the pants… would it be acceptable to wear a chalk white vest instead? I am glad to be re-reading these comments. I had the same question, and so I am relieved to find this answer! Wow, everyone here agrees, what a boring pointless waist of time.
First rule, there are no rules. Let loose man, indigo denim jeans, brown beat up brogues and a nice fitted shirt with top button undone. Gets the ladies everytime whilst the blazers are complementing each other on joining their exclusive club of banality. Thou shalt learn the proper usage of the second person singular pronoun before attempting to employ it.
Your list is the grammatical equivalent of wearing a tuxedo with sneakers. Though too, a stickler for proper English; remember that this is a blog about fashion, and thus an English nanny adds little. Chris, of August 14, you are rude. The guy is just listing some things that most well dressed men would wear for business.
Do you know what I mean? I realize this is an old post, but I was browsing around and found it, and feel compelled make a comment about those complaining about Rule 16, claiming that loafers are casual wear and therefore unacceptable to wear with suits. I can vividly remember going shopping with my father back in the 80s where I learned more about classic, American style business suits and shoes than any 12 year old girl probably needed to know.
Not low-cut slip-ons, but shoes that he used a shoe horn for. With maybe a little brouge detailing and tassels. No one would have said that my father was the trendiest guy at his L. And he wore loafers. Luke, No, especially if it is a darker brown.
Only White shirts should be worn under a suit? I love when guys mix shirt patterns with tie patterns. I find nothing sadder than the current trend of guys wearing flat toed shoes. How did this happen? I think it actually started in the UK. Do you think congress would consider economic sanctions? Dave, No I am not saying only white shirts should be worn. Only shirts that have a white collar and cuffs and have some type of pattern, color or otherwise for the body and arms of the shirt, sometimes called banker shirts require a jacket.
I am not sure what exactly started the square toed shoe disaster, however, I would gladly publish a piece on the history of how they came to be if someone wanted to write it. The more glaring grammatical issue, as I alluded to rather snarkily in my previous reply, is the mixing of second and third person pronouns. Please allow me recognise so that I may just subscribe. Amanda, Yes, of course it is okay to wear suspenders with a vest. Just make sure the suspenders fasten to the pants via buttons and not clips.
Nick, I would advise against pairing a black suit whether solid or striped with brown shoes. It really depends on the suit. If the suit is a solid black no striping or plaid in it then no on the brown shoes.
I was planning on wearing a black suit and tie. Keep up the great work! You know, many people are searching around for this information, you could help them greatly. I see it daily done right. Or a blue suit if the brown is dark enough.
The Rule about matching colors of belt and shoe, what do you say about a dark blue suede Brogues shoe? By that I mean hat colors of pant should you wear? You guys have lot of times on your hands. Wear whatever you feel confortable wearing.
This is all mambo jumbo to me. I hand my cell phone to my belt because it is convenient and give me easy access to answer calls. If you want to button all the buttons on your suit, go ahead, it is yours and yours alone. Why else will there be a 3rd button? By the way, I never liked 3 button suits. Likewise flat front pants, I hate those. I hate pointed head shoes the most.
People like you are the reason sites like this are made, to tell you that you are doing it wrong. PS rule 28 brown suits, no go zone, no one looks good in a brown suit. There is a lot of commentary here. First, connie, this is a pretty good list of very basic rules one could follow when wanting to look groomed…this comes from a person raised in the Country Club who still wears a suit and tie to work everyday.
Now, there is common sentiment that too many rules is a bad thing, makes one look like they try too hard, etc, with the common theme being…make sure your clothes fit well. I have an opinion on that. Nothing destroys a look, or makes one look like someone TRYING to look like a guy in a suit than a pilfy or faded tie, unsigned shoes, a shirt color that has those tell tell whitened edges on the collar that suggests the shirt has seen and passed its prime.
Make sure your clothes are in good condition, as well, and never, ever buy those ties that are patterned like modern art. As for white bucks, I must absolutely disagree that they are for any occasion other than casual.
I think the author has claimed white bucks as his personal trademark…as I have done with loud socks. Now, while my loud socks are a stamp on my fashion choice and I think they are awesome, I would not suggest that everyone try the trend as, truthfully, it is not correct. However, once a gentleman dresses up and gets comfortable with the rules, they begin to break certain rules as to not look like…they read a set of rules.
I honestly think this: There are hard fast rules. Match your shoes and belt. And, yes, square toe shoes should be avoided. DO NOT wear that outfit. You will begin to play with the rules. Then, one day, you will find your equivalent to loud socks. YOu will find that one thing that attracts attention, but you feel confident about it…and interestingly…people will comment favorably. Cheap shirts look just like that.
Like a cheap shirt. I know it sounds crazy to spend a couple hundred buck on three shirts, but wait for the Brooks Brothers buy three sales and snatch them up! Get two whites and an oxford blue. Then, as soon as you can do it again, do it. Get another oxford blue, a pink, and one pattern. When wearing suits and ties everyday, you can get away with wearing the same five suits with the same five shirts week after week….
Mix them up, have a good assortment. You can spot that from a mile away. You can spend a couple hundred bucks and more on just one quality dress shirt at Neiman Marcus and other high end stores. For a perfect fit, you can get bespoke shirts especially from London that go up from there.
If your resources permit bespoke clothing, and you have a highly refined taste in clothing, you are reading the wrong the web site and should be reading the A Suitable Wardrobe web site.
Would be curious what you would have to say about a ventless, double breasted, bespoke, suit jacket. You seem qualified to say. I enjoyed the post, but really disagree with the no square toe shoe rule. I find they give a nice clean cut end to your suit, and most of the shoes now are pretty narrow with a slimmer squared-off tip.
Thank you for the advice. I wish my son who just graduated college would sit and read the site. He does not believe what the old man suggests. Thank you once again! It has its high points, but it also has plenty of points with which I disagree, with varying intensity:. Thou shall not wear slip on shoes with a suit.
In fact, they should be avoided. With the right slip on shoe, it works just fine. In the case of shoes, I believe the horizontal created by the toe works quite well. Thou shall not wear a tie without a jacket…. Thou shall leave the bottom button of vest waistcoat unbuttoned….
One should always button that bottom button, as not doing so looks sloppy. Thou shall not wear a solid black suit for business or professional activities…. Black can easily be worn for business or professional activities, and need not be reserved for funerals and formal events. All criticisms aside, the many points with which I do agree are very solid.
But I do have one question: Skoogle- Business is a dark suit. Formal is black or white tie tuxedo or evening jacket , or morning coats if before noon. Casual is anything in your closet except jeans and t-shirts. There is no such thing as semi-formal. You can wear a jacket and tie in casual settings. My my ole chats. Quite an astonishing bit of wisdom I do must say. One must be properly attired and catered to with impeccable taste, mind you, and the fellowship of his heritage I might bit want to add here.
Nobility is keen, and thus I require my personal staff to render the best attire, as it is a must, for myself, and those whom frequent these palace grounds. Sir James has informed me of what has been said here and I see merit in much of your commentary. Cheerio good chap…God save the Queen. Was that comment generated by a computer? If so, the program needs a lot more tuning.
If not, you might want to consider reading your posts aloud before submitting them. Mostly a correct list, save the overdressed rule. It is far better to be underdressed if unsure. Can say the exact same in the opposite scenario. Always better to be overdressed. Not so bad to stick out instead of humbly pretending to minimize personal difference. Groups are known to minimize internal difference to single out the different, hence the fear of sticking out, because it show that you as everyone are as different each other, among your group, as are those outside the group.
Far easier to adjust downward an overdressed situation than adjusting upward an underdressed state. I wanna wear it at my weddn…thnx wtng 4 ur rply.. Why would anyone that spells like they are 13 years old and texting be asking about tuxedo? For you it should be a nike shell suit and a pair of kswiss trainers…. Might want to get those checked. I much prefer braces to a belt, but do not feel comfortable showing them in public.
Do others feel the same, or am I too self-conscious? Braces can be one of the most attractive and stylish accessories, and proudly shown.
Not boring ones almost all the ones you find in stores. Wearing a black and gray ensemble, and white shirt, a pair of high quality silk buttoned, of course braces in a solid red or blue hue are an attractive accent and should be seen. If you have an elegant patterned pair, say Italian and probably rather expensive, with appropriate matching and contrasting colors for your outfit, they too are made and worn to be seen. Anybody still reading these comments?
Really old post, but does anyone else find it offensive to see so many striped shirts worn with a pattern tie? I was always taught to avoid that like the plague. Dan, Oftentimes the dress code for an event is unclear so I find that when in doubt, over dress. I still follow these comments. Pattern on pattern is a no-no for me just because of my look. He works as a fashion editor for GQ.
He can wear whatever he wants, including pattern on pattern, and he looks great. I need to stick to classic, Mad Men style fashion. More men need to get to that point, well done.
And I forgot to ask my question…I just notice the rule about ironing the collar. Can anyone elaborate about this? Does Justin mean the creased is too stiff? I work at a very casual workplace, people tend to bend his shirts, and i try to mantain the standard of proper dress for the business. Can I still usimg the tie and the cufflinks under that enviroment or should I start using the jacket, even thought it will be overdressed? JC, Cufflinks are fine in a casual environment as far as I am concerned.
But your co workers may not care for them. Either way, you should wear a jacket if you are wearing cufflinks. I cant tell you how many times ive tried to explain rule 48 to my friends. For the most part I agree with your rules. The belt and shoe matching has relaxed somewhat over the last few years, and white bucks are not badass……..
Overall, your rules apply, but you seem somewhat stiff. A few comments in regards to the rules and the posts. Makes you wonder whether the teeth are brushed or the underwear is washed. The image of a well dressed man is viewed from the bottom up. Do I have to mention that shoes trees are a must? A fine list brother sir. You won me over with 44 and 45 they are hilarious and very true. Fantastic list, not too pretentious. Find myself agreeing with point 9- if it has belt loops, it needs a belt!
Point 44 is awesome, really made me laugh! I agree with the other person who alluded to this list being very conservative. I have over 30 pairs of dress shoes all different colors. I love mixing it up and creating my own style.
I have over 50 dress shirts and ties, and 15 blazers in the rotation right now. To anyone just starting out this may be a really nice way to start off, but as you continue buying dress clothes let your imagination take control.
Look up the color wheel and learn to match hues. Mike, I certainly agree with you. The list is intended to be very conservative, foolproof if anything.
Sounds like you have a well built wardrobe. Can you just wear a tie with just a waistcoat or does it have to be jacket? Evan, A lot of men wear a vest or waistcoat without a jacket. But that is not a look I like or really support. Any pair of trousers can have suspender buttons attached to them, any tailor should be able to do it for a few dollars or you can do it yourself pretty easily. Just make sure the pants have a longer rise and sit higher on the waist so that they look better with suspenders.
Your pants waist the top where a belt would go should be horizontal, even if you have a beer belly. Nothing looks more slovenly than pants at a 40 degree downward angle, hanging over maybe hiding a belt at the same or lower angle. Oh dear, dear me. These should never be worn — ever. Any that exist should be melted down as the plastic waste they are and recycled into something with more appeal and style.
Something like joke dog turd or a plastic wart. This trio of ingredients is all that is necessary for awesome shoes or boots. My burgundy Monks shine like rubys. They take time and patience but the effect is worth the wait. Is it acceptable to wear a pocket square with a red and white pattern, and a bow tie that is solid burgundy together?
Could you recommend a tie and pocket square combination for a navy suit, white shirt and brown gucci loafers? Robert, It all depends on how classic or not classic you want to go. If you want to keep it simple just go with a white pocket square and a solid navy or burgundy tie. The good news is that you can pair almost any color with white and navy — you could do anything from a pink paisley tie to a purple silk knit tie.
Colored socks are a no no!! Real men wear dark socks to match their dark suit pant. Colored socks can be one of the few interesting options for a touch of style in a conservative outfit. Check out A Suitable Wardrobe web site, which is an extremely high end clothing adviser and purveyor, and which one would expect to be ultra-conservative and it is.
There you will find the proprietor wearing a bespoke dark suit, bespoke shoes, and…. There is a very famous concert pianist noted for wearing patterned hose in bright colors during concerts, and such hose are popular with church and concert organists. Properly chosen patterns and colors e.
When wearing a patterned bow tie and brightly colored pocket square, does a loafer with a bit and striped band become to distracting from the rest of the ensemble?
Jake, I assume you are referring to the Gucci bits with green and red stripe behind the bit. The shoes themselves will not distract. However, if you have a lot of other stuff going on like a patterned shirt, jacket or pants that could easily tip things over. Just purchased a navy suit with the perfect fit however I want a matching waistcoat. I know the waistcoat should always be the same thread and colour but if not is there any other colour that may look the part? Wedding is in 2 weeks appreciate the help.
Definitely a reception for a more dressed down look and I even wore one to my sons high school graduation with a sporty thin bow tie. My favorite is a navy pinstripe suit with a solid matching fabric waistcoat. These are my own opinions and some consider me old fashioned but I like it that way. Find out the dress for the wedding before settling.
You still have the contrast of the expensive tie against the suit. The only difference is that you are now extending the Color of the Black suit by wearing the Black Dress Shirt. Then you wear a bright colored tie in contrast to it. You can also wear a Charcoal Dress Shirt that matches your Charcoal suit and wear a different color tie in contrast. Works best with dark or dark medium colored suits. Wow that was odd. Regardless, just wanted to say fantastic blog! I do not agree with this statement — Ralph Lauren makes some awesome pinpoint oxford shirts that make suit.
A nicely colored shirt with the polo logo looks great when the jackets come off especially in extended meetings. I have always received compliments. So please lighten up. Lorenzo, Ralph Lauren and even some other brands that feature their logo on the shirt does make some great off the rack dress shirts.
But I cannot disagree with you more on your insistence that wearing a logoed dress shirt is at all appropriate for a business setting, especially with a suit.
A logo is the last thing someone should see on a man when he is wearing a suit. A suit and the man wearing it are supposed to speak for themselves, not have the logo of a brand speak for them.
The watch chain, watch and fob should be of the same color metal gold r silver. The chain should appropriate in length as so not to be too long to liberally dangle about the frontage of the body.
Additionally, for a business suit with a lapel hole, a pocket watch with chain and fob may be used. A pocket watch and wristwatch should never be used in conjunction with one another although the Prince of Wales was once photographed doing so. Hats may be worn with either tux or business suit to complete the wardrobe ensemble.
When wearing hats, accompanying gloves are to be worn. Top coats and outer wear are optional, given the preference of the man, the occasion and naturally the weather. Top coats of a Navy blue or black material, preferably wool, are most acceptable.
Trench Coats with a brim hat are also acceptable especially in temperate, rainy weather, however, trench coats are not to be worn with formal wear. Writing instruments and other ancillary business apparatus are not to be openly seen, carried or worn in such a manner as to present themselves with an obvious attraction to others. Always use a handkerchief whenever possible out of the sight of others; otherwise, excuse yourself and quickly turn around and use the handkerchief, then immediately take the opportunity to excuse oneself to the mens room or bathroom.
Avoid overly bulging wallets, noisy keys and other personal items that may cause irritable noises or wardrobe anomalies. Before an event, empty your wallet of all frivolous items, this will maker both your wallet and appearance slimmer, in addition being being more comfortable to carry.
Pair your keys down to only those that you will need to access your vehicle or office, your other keys you can keep locked up in your desk drawer or automobile. When at last I rationalized the number of keys, lost their chunky fob, and slimmed down to a two-fold Belroy wallet, my lines became much smoother.
I was wondering if you ever considered changing the layout of your blog? Its very well written; I love what youve got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content so people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having 1 or 2 images. Maybe you could space it out better? Try navy or light grey trousers. Awesome and awesome — all points in taste and great humor. I shall be looking into some white bucks shortly. Set trends and be brave in your dress sense and!
As the webpage say… fine young gentleman. I saw a man with light blue straight laced up shoes. I think was patent cuz shine as sun, but could be just nice leather. With… light blue shirt and tie, shine also, maybe silk or polyester mix. And a light grey suit. Pants and nice jacket with pointy lapels. Also handkerchief light blue like the tie and shirt, in the jackets upper pocket.
So far looks like a school boy. And the man got like 50 or 55 years old! His face… hairstyle… shittt… forget the color, that guy was a fine badass for sure.
Summer badass, we can tell. I get married in 5 days. I have a grey morning suit but I only ever wear brown shoes and I want to buy a new pair of brown shoes for my wedding. However, oldies and traditionalists are saying that I should wear black. Darren, Congrats on getting married.
With a morning suit I would also recommend going with black shoes. This is all good stuff, especially for a commoner like myself.
However, I find it hard to take seriously, even if I came into money, because the language and grammar are ridiculous. Rule 6 saves the day! According to this rule, I can wear white socks with a dark suit as long as I also wear a white shirt! Exceptional post however , I was wanting to know if you could write a litte more on this topic? I am attending a wedding reception this week only the evening, party type event.
I am considering dark blue, very smart jeans, brown brogues, brown belt, blue formal shirt and a blazer with a patterned pocket square. Do you think this will pass, or is it necessary to put on a suit. After five days a week in suit, shirt and tie, its good to get a change!!
However do not wish to look out of place. Cful, It all depends on what the requested dress is. Nor would I ever advise anyone to wear them to a wedding reception, no matter what the dress. I would say just suck it up and wear a suit or at least some dress trousers. Another reason the loafers would have […]. Are we just talking typical business suit jackets here?
Id agree if so, however on a casual jacket.. I think this rule is open for breaking depending on these factors but in casual terms only! There is no disputing that fact.
Can you wear a brown waistcoat with a black overcoat, or is that too bizarre? If you can, what colour must the tie be? But I would not wear a brown waistcoat with a black jacket blazer, sport jacket or other. I applaud the effort put forth to transcribe these rules from the original stone tablets and look forward to future post industrial revolution rules.
I wonder, does the current over utilization of pocket squares, make you reconsider rules 32, and 33? I would say that the way some men wear them is over done, however.
Which, as you note, can give the whole thing a bad name. If wearing a top hat to an event, does the color of the top hat need to match the trousers? Or does a black top hat go with any formal dress? Bryan, A black top hat will go with any formal dress — black tie, white tie, morning dress. I am getting married this December and I will be wearing a navy blue suit with a black lapel, navy blue matching pants n waist coat and a white shirt…. I will be wearing burgundy shoes or brown shoes, I also intend wearing brown belt or burgundy belt…my question is this… What color of socks, and bow tie would complement my dressing?
I was thinking of wearing a 2 piece blue sharkskin suit with a light charcoal vest for my high school prom. Does this sound like a good combination? I am in the process of choosing a suit for my high school prom, and would like to wear a 2 piece blue sharkskin suit with a light charcoal vest. Is this a good combination? Mr South, I think that combo will be fine, if you can, have the vest be of a different texture than sharkskin to give a little textural contrast.
Is anything other than black acceptable? I was originally going for a dark blue dress pant with a light bright cardigan type look or light grey dress pants with brown belt and shoes with a simple paisley designed bow tie. But I now I think it will just look tacky. Should I scratch the idea and go for black? A little help would be appreciated!
Jason, Yes, many other things are acceptable. They also used a lot of heavy fabrics like tweed, I think. Adnan, Black pants and grey jacket are fine, but dont wear a black shirt. Wear a white one instead. Dear God, I sincerely hope the commenters extolling the virtues of a black suit, black shirt and colored tie are joking. That combination is indicative of three things: They are not mutually exclusive.
As for the square toed shoes — if you were to examine the offerings of a high quality shoe maker you will not find a square toed shoe in their collection. Dress appropriately for your context. If you are doing business in Japan, a black suit is not horrific, it is mandatory. A gentleman even of the American persuasion would be loathe to use it. I think there needs to be an addition to the rules regarding — collar stays.
Most respectable dress shirts now have the slots for it and some even provide you with a set. They keep the collars crisp and straight and give the dress shirt a sharper and more professional look. If you forget to insert them in the morning and notice it in the office, use a paper clip. Horsebits with a suit? I have a pair of light grey suede shoes, would it be acceptable to wear with a tie, vest and dress pants vest and pants black?
Traditionally, one wore a tie only with a full-sleeved shirt. For some years now, and mainly due to weather conditions, ties with half-sleeved shirts are acceptable, so long as one does not wear a jacket. While striped suits, or striped trousers with a plain shirt look good, avoid checked trousers. They do not look as elegant.
The tip of the larger, outer blade of the long tie should sit on the middle of the belt buckle, not middle of the stomach! A nice guide that at the showed me some things I have been doing wrong, but even better it showed me what I have been doing correct. That said there is still some things I am somewhat unsure about and that is when it comes to shoes. Other than hearing that many make mistakes when wearing brown shoes I never actually know what those misstakes are, so I always find myself second guessing my choices in wearing brown shoes.
Never really know what to treat them as but they look great either way. Could these be worn with black dockers and a black belt, or do the brown soles scuttle the deal?
Or does it depend on the shirt? We at Computer Guys wish you a great year ahead with lots of personal growth. Firstly, I find even the thought of white bucks as midly insulting. Whoever wrote this article needs to take a long hard look in the mirror before handing out advice so easily. It is absolutely preposterous that one thinks black shoes and brown is not acceptable — who are you? And horizontal ties…are you kidding me. I started reading this expecting to disagree with most of the rules.
I agreed with them all. Thank you for the very informative post. Believe me on this, I follow all of your 51 rules already and it does make a difference. The largest ambiguity is, however, cleared up in the conversation above. I do NOT think that Rule 29 should be interpreted to mean that one shall not wear a white shirt with anything but a suit and tie another ambiguity that emerges from how poorly it is written.
The all-white shirt with no tie and a sweater or jacket is very IN right now. That look is quite common today among well-dressed gentlemen. That shirt Lamonis wears is available on-line. Forgot who makes it. Here is a rule for the gentleman who writes well: Doing this actually advertises your insecurity. Rule 13 should be seen as one for America only. Go to Japan or Europe or Singapore or Hong Kong and you will see guys in business casual dress with cuffed shirts and cufflinks with no jacket.
He looked — and is — totally sharp, and definitely not a hipster. I predict we will see more of this in America over the next few years.
Rule 13 is weak and may fade away altogether. Perhaps this man does have a sense of style. Yeah, but that rule is only applicable in america. True, but that doesnt matter. Shthay something im giving up on you. Honestly, I disagree with more than half this list. Largely it lacks imagination that usually comes with the snobbery lists like this almost invariably have. You place far too much importance on jackets. You can wear ties and braces just find without them. Braces, too, are for utility as much as style.
On that note, braces with with clips are preferable to ones with buttons. Anyone who places too focus on shoes is a fool and shallow one on that. Yes, they should be appropriate for the outfit and they should match, but beyond that they should be an after thought. Anyone who cares too much about shoes needs a hobby to occupy their excess time.
Again, utility and comfort are as if not more important than fashion. If square toe shoes are more comfortable for the wearer, they are preferable.
Also, a person who thinks white bucks are anything but hideous loses the right to dictate fashion. In regards to buttoning the bottom button, be it waistcoats or suit jackets, is matter of the image you want to project. You lost all credibility the moment you said that loafers with tassels are bad-ass. I think you should re-consider your position on square-toed shoes. Just because they are a newer development does not mean they are wrong.
Perhaps they do not work for most men, but I think a blanket statement saying that they are always terrible, is simply unjustified. Perhaps not specific to the enumerated Rules of Dress, but I will comment on the common combination of khaki pants and the solid light blue shirt; typically a button-down oxford shirt.
I have no idea why these two came to match. The look is frumpy, boring, and unimaginative. To me the color combination just does not look good. Least of all, is not a style, as in: This blog is very interesting. I noted a lot of ideas which I can share to my brothers and friends. For more ideas visit our site http: I came to this page trying to find tips written in a serious and mature manor.
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